Part of the impetus of the emerging church movement is the criticism that the church isn't culturally relevant and people, particularly the young aren't interested in the church as it stands today. So what's the problem? The emergent folks say that the church isn't culturally relevant since that's what people are saying so we have to make the church culturally relevant. But is that really what the problem is? And has God ever been culturally relevant?
After spending some time thinking about whether God has ever been culturally relevant, I have to say the answer is no-God has never been culturally relevant. I would submit that a culturally relevant God would not have cast Adam and Eve out of the Garden, destroyed the world with a flood saving only a family of 8 and some animals, causing mankind to disperse at the Tower of Babel, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, punished the children of Israel and Moses for their unbelief, punished the nations of Israel and Judah with captivity to name a few. Furthermore, why would a culturally relevant God feel the need to sacrifice His only Son to provide a means by where humanity could be restored to fellowship with Him? That should tell us something about humanity's culture throughout the ages-it's wrong and an anathema to God and He punishes people and nations for their culture. So why would we think that making the gospel of Christ culturally relevant to our time today would be acceptable to God? When Christ interacted with religious leaders, tax collectors and prostitutes he did indeed met them where they were but He challenged and in some cases changed their culture. He didn't make them better prostitutes and tax collectors and religious leaders. For that matter, Christ meets each of us where we are, it is only our notions of being better than others or not quite as bad that prevents us from seeing that in God's eyes we are all equally evil and in need of salvation. Romans 3:10 says that none are righteous. Society might say that one person is better than another is but God does not. He is not a respecter of persons (Romans 2:11) nor does He pay any attention to our social status, ethnicity or gender (Gal 3:28). When people truly meet up with Christ their culture is changed to His culture-not the other way around.
So this gets to the heart of the first question. Is it really that the church is not culturally relevant? As with many things there is always a kernel of truth that Satan finds and twists. I would agree that in some cases the church buildings have become enclaves to be away from the world. We do sometimes seem to spend an awful lot of time saying "Thou shalt not" instead of "Thou shalt do". So from that perspective most of us are probably guilty as charged.
We have forgotten that our primary purpose is to preach the Good news of Christ (Acts 1:8) to the four corners of the earth and you can't do that sitting in your warm comfy pew and you might actually have to associate with people out side your social strata who do things most of us would condemn or might make us feel uncomfortable. Some of us lack joy and it shows. We judge people by our first impressions and on their outsides without considering what they need on the inside. We also might be guilty of not ministering enough to the actual physical needs of those around us while preaching the good news but for the most part I think this one is lame. I think that more good has been done for the physical needs of people in Christ's name while preaching the good news than not. The Salvation Army, the old Catholic hospitals & mission hospitals come to mind. We want people to change up front and be like us before we fellowship with them. We seem to forget that change happens AFTER someone meets Christ not before. Besides, are any of us perfect in our faith and walk? Do we not all have weakness and temptations that cause us grief?
But, the seeker sensitive folks, those who say we have to make the church culturally relevant have forgotten something- We are to be transformed by the renewing of our minds and hearts (Romans 12:2), conforming not to the world but conforming to the image of Christ (Romans 12:2 and 8:30). That to me means we should be engaging our culture where it is and changing our culture not the other way around.
I Peter 2:9 reads "But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:"
2 Corinthians 6:17-18 says Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
Both mean to me that we are to be different from our world. Actually the whole of 1 Peter 2 is amazing to read in light of what is happening today to make the church relevant and what we are do to, be and look like.
People want absolutes. People are looking for truth and they are looking for certainty. They may say they don't believe in absolutes, truth or certainty but I think they do want it or hope that it exists. God is a God of absolutes. We are created in His image. We crave spiritual fulfillment and fellowship-it's encoded into us. People don't really want wishy-washy or may be.
If the church has failed in its mission I would submit the reasons are multifactorial but mostly because we're trying to be culturally relevant and not too different.
Cries of exclusivity abound-that only our way is the right way. So then we try to be politically correct and agree. We forget that Christ claimed to be the only way to God, John 14:6. Is Christianity exclusive-you bet. Don't apologize for or try to be politically correct about Christ's claims.
Folks today seem to think that just because something is widely done, admired, or culturally acceptable, that the behavior must be ok. Problem is that scripture frequently takes a different view. God is unchanging so it follows that His opinions of what is right and what is wrong must also be unchanging. (Hebrews 13:8) So instead of changing us we try to change the message, we try not to be offensive especially when dealing with sin and sinners because we don't want to offend, we want to be liked by everyone. When we call parts of our culture wrong and sinful according to that which is written in scripture (sexual sins coming to mind) the general populace is going to be offended and they won't like us much. Christ took the religious leaders of his day to task more than any other group (man what does that mean for us, consider that). He called them whited tombs full of dead men's bones (Matthew 23:27), an evil and adulterous generation (Matthew 12:39), a generation of vipers (Matthew 3:7) none of which sound politically correct to me. Keep in mind the religious leaders of the day were the ones that delivered Christ up to be crucified. Have we forgotten Christ's own words in John 15:18-20- "“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the words I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also." Why would we think that our message would or should be popular? Christ's message wasn't all that popular when He proclaimed it Himself. In fact, His message got Him killed. Today's leaders and Christians want to focus on God being a God of love forgetting that God is also a Holy God and hates sin. We need to find a balance here people. Yes God is a God of love and that has been forgotten by some in the past but now we've gone the other way and completely abandoned the concept of a Holy God to whom sin is an anathema, needing to be punished.
My bottom line take on the emergent church is that their priorities are out of place. John F Kennedy Jr said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". We seem as a society to have this backward wanting more to know what our country can do for us than the other way around. I think that this attitude has permeated the spiritual as well. We no longer want to know what we can do for God but what is He going to do for us?
My solution is that we as individual Christians need to have a different culture, the culture of God. Galatians 5:22-25 I think says it best- "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit." We need to have a different culture than the world around us and then be faithful to that culture. We need to keep our priorities straight.
My goal-to be transformed, conformed, separate and exhibit the Fruit if the Spirit. I won't be popular but I will be found faithful.
8 comments:
Jib,
You hit the nail on the head!
The proof of the pudding is in the eating :)
Isaiah 55:8: "For my thoughta are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord."
Also, the Church has been lulled into sleep. It's business as usual in most Churches.
11 Timothy 3:5 says, "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
What this Country needs is an Old Time, Holy Spirit Revival, from the pulpit down to the pew. Where sin is called what it is, and righteousnes is exalted.
America is no better than the Church at Laodicea, mentioned in Rev. 3: 15 and 16:
"I know thy works, that thou are neither cold nor hot: I would that thou wert cold or hot.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
These verses were addressed to the Church.
However, going down to verse 20, of the same chapter, we read:
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and sup with him, and he with me."
So, what should the Church be doing?
Jesus said, "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."
Luke 10: 2:
"The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that He would send forth labourers into His harvest."
As one Minister once said, if you can't go, then pray. If we are part of the body of Christ, we need to be about our Masters business. And not be found sitting on our "blessed assurance."
Just my thoughts, along these lines.
Cultural relevancy? What nonsense.
Jib,
Great post.
I know that some churches are aware of the dangers of this thinking and are warning the congregations.
So for the churches who may be starting or down the wrong path already-I wonder what the best approach would be to expose and warn them of the dangers.
Do you attempt to go from the bottom up? Speak to people you may know/meet. They spread the word and if nothing changes they leave their church.
Or
Do you go from the top down and straight to the Pastor and discuss it? (We probably would have a fear of how that would turn out-but do we just become a "David"?)
or both?
Lisa
Lisa
I think it depends on the church and the person. For the most part whether pastor or not I would approach that individual and discuss with them. If it is the general consensus of the church I think a letter explaining why it is bad would be in order and I would talk to the pastor about the direction the church is heading. If it continues to go the way of falsehood and they won't listen I don't know that one has any option but to find a different church. I will say however after the mount of reading that I've done, the emergent church philosophy is so pervasive I think it's going to be tough to find one completely free of disease.
Marge,thanks for your insights and comments. true and most appreciated
hi sister,
Didn't bother to sign in, so I'm not in blue :(, but it's me, kinderquilt. You emailed me and gave me this address and asked us to comment on it. I like it! Nice job on the graphics. I'll be emailing my trip details soon, when I can get my husband to show me how to post them, or something. Meanwhile, blessings to you and your family. K
Hi jib,
(BTW, it's Joyce, isn't it? I seem to remember that from the health club ???)
I still have the material scattered around to respond to Donna's post about children being saved. In my research I came across several other views which were apart from what I intended to reply with, but I felt I shouldn't reply with an incomplete response on the subject, so I haven't done anything about it yet. The children in the rapture topic never entered my mind...I was focusing on what happens to children who die before they can make a decision or mentally handicapped people dying. Then I came across the rapture subject and I had to start a whole new line of research to dig into that. I'll be very interested to hear what Dr. F. has to say.
Also, many months ago, I had a VERY vivid dream about life post-rapture (it has faded a bit now, but at the time, I could relive it in great detail.) I remember that it was black/white/gray, which really made an impression since I dream in color. I was able to see many family members huddling together in one of their homes, totally at a loss about what had happened and what to do. At the time, I was filled with sorrow to see them there, but now I'm trying to remember if any of their children were with them. It pains me to think that I sorta recall seeing my cousin's 5-year old daughter in that dream. I can't say for sure and I've been asking the Lord for guidance on the subject. As I was reading Scripture one day, this verse really jumped out at me and I take it as a sign (until He tells me otherwise) that I can rest in His mercy and fair provision for those who aren't at a point where they can make that decision for themselves. I don't want to hold to a view based on emotion or what I believe is fair even though the thought of children left behind or children going to hell feels comfortable no where in my heart, mind or spirit.
Ps. 22 9-10 (Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you even at my mother’s breast. From my birth I was cast upon you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.)
There are many instances of children speaking about their guardian angels and even Jesus for me to believe that He hasn't left any loopholes in His plan for the littlest members of His creation.
As for the book study, I think I'll have to pass on this one. I'd love to do that at some point, but my months of cave blogging and internet researching (not to mention good ol' Bible reading and studying) has put me so off kilter that I'm really trying to dig my way out of the hole now. The kids, hubby, cats, dog, everyone is suffering around here and I need to attend to some practical things before I add another iron in the fire. Thank you for the invitation, though. I'll plan to follow along at the cave and maybe jump in at a later date.
Blessings,
Jen
Not sure where to reply! I have so many places now...blogs, email, etc. so I'll just stick with this system :-)
Interesting dreams as well. My mom was raised RC but when she married my dad (raised Methodist) she started attending Bible studies with my grandmother. Her salvation moment came during one of those studies when she said she felt an actual, physical push on the back of her head and everything suddenly made sense....no way to work your way into Heaven, it's a total and completely free gift.
On a similar note, we're all praying for my grandfather (I've mentioned him a few times at the cave). He has started reading the NT that my mom left for him and is more open to Q/A than ever before. My mom has been witnessing to him for over 20 years, so this new development is really exciting. He has a lot of health problems (has for years) and I believe he's living on borrowed time, so we're praying with great expectation that God's love will finally break through and we'll have the great news of another family member being added to the book.
Gotta run...trying to stick to an earlier bedtime.
Blessings,
Jen
Hi Joyce,
Would you prefer I stick with Jib or is Joyce ok?
Kathy
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